Bottomless Pit 2

 MARY HANSON
 Birth 09 Aug 1675 in Upton, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
 Death  in Upton, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA

 PARENTS
 John Hanson (1549-1622)
 Janet Raynor (1551- )

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Walter Stanhope (1572-1661)
 ✿ Mary Stanhope (1602-1616)
 ✿ Jane Stanhope (1612-1693)
 ✿ Walter Stanhope (1612-1646)
 ✿ Edward Stanhope (1615-1675)
 ✿ Catherine Stanhope (1618-1618)
 ✿ Anne Stanhope (1623- )

If you're thinking Mary's birth year is a typo, you're an optimist. A birth year of 1575 would be better than having her parents and most of her children dying before her own birth. It would not, however, explain the births and deaths of Mary's parents, husband and children all occurring in England. Changing her birth year would also not improve the rest of the profile which is after the jump.
Here are just a few highlights (numbers in parenthesis are the number of events that are exact duplicates):

 ✿ Marriage
810 AD
Uppsala, Sweden
 ✿ Marriage
1503 7 Oct
Bernbowgale Edinburgh St. James St. Giles Toftis Manys Bernbowgale Manys Toftis Dummanyne Canongate Trinitarian Peblis Crukstoun, Midlothia, Scotland
 ✿ Christening
1847 31 Jan
Kerry, Ireland
 ✿ BURIAL
1864 15 Oct
NC
 ✿ Residence (85)
1911
Guysborough, Nova Scotia, Canada
 ✿ Arrival (12)
1913 6 Jun
Detroit, Michigan
 ✿ Residence (72)
1930
Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
 ✿ SSN issued
California

After the jump: The complete list of events

It Paynes Me

My apologies, this should have been Rule #1.

RULE #12  Pay attention to what you're doing!

 Harriet S. Payne

 PARENTS
 Peter I Coughnet (1793-1856)
 Catherine Wohlgemuth (1794-1881)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Lafayette Wilmarth (1811-1854)
 ✿ Harriet Ceilinda "Hattie" Wilmarth (b. 1841)
 ✿ William P Tiffany (b. 1844)
 ✿ Katherine (Kate) Tiffany (b. 1844)
 ✿ Priscilla Tiffany (b. 1845)
 ✿ Luther Scott Tiffany (b. 1867)

 Birth  April 30, 1812 in Susquehanna, Pennsylvania
 Marriage  22 Feb 1842 to Lafayette Wilmarth
 Marriage  30 Jun 1846 to Lafayette Wilmarth
 Death  March 29, 1859 in Jackson Twp, Susquehanna, Pennsylvania
 Residence  1880 in Davenport, Scott, Iowa, United States
 Burial  in Davenport, Scott, Iowa

After the jump: The records and more

Baby Love

 Alexander Love
 Birth  1690 in Northumberland, Virginia, USA
 Death 1773 in Onslow, North Carolina, USA

 PARENTS
 James Arnold Love (1681-1773)
 April Osterman (1681- )

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Elishe Love (1695-1729)
 ✿ Saponey Indian Squaw Aka Honor Love (b. 1690)
 ✿ Hannah Love (b. 1702)
 ✿ Elizabeth Love (b. 1705)
 ✿ Amos Love (b. 1705)
 ✿ John Love (b. 1720)
 ✿ James Love (b. 1723)
 ✿ Judith Love (b. 1727)
 ✿ Jane Love (b. 1727)
 ✿ Jane Love (b. 1727)

 RECORDS attached to this profile

 ✿ U.S. Revolutionary War Rolls 1775-1783
     Alexander Love, Military Date: 7 Feb 1778, Rhode Island
 ✿ U.S. Civil War Soldiers, 1861-1865
     Alexander Love, Confederate, North Carolina

So Alexander was born to 9 year old parents. He then either starts his own family at birth or adopts a child later who is the same age as him. He and his wife continue to have children as children themselves. Five years after his death he fights in the Revolutionary War. Then he hangs around for 90 more years to fight in the Civil War.

 Father  Sir John LeLou ( -1308)
 Mother Amice Mauduit

 Child    Nigeli Luiff (1420-1492)

And John's parents were 100 and 70 years old when he was born.
It's never just one mistake. Clickohphiles don't pay attention to what they're doing. Ever.


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Clickophile Too

Rule #8: Editing out blatantly erroneous data from a clickophile's tree does not make the information accurate.

Here we have part of a tree that was obviously created by a clickophile:

 Peter DeWyckhurst
 Birth 1198 in Coulsdon, Surrey, England
 Death 1220 in Surrey, England

 PARENTS & SIBLINGS
 Peter DeWyckhurst (1180-1203)
 Lady Peter De Wyckhurst (1180-1203)
 ✿ Peter DeWyckhurst (1180-1203) [female]
 ✿ Peter DeWyckhurst (1195-1220)
 ✿ WILLIAM ATTE WODE (1220-1278)
 ✿ Peter Atte Wode (1245-1313)
 HALF-SIBLINGS
 (through father Peter DeWyckhurst & step-mother Peter DeWyckhurst)
 ✿ Lady Alice DeWyckhurst (1180- )
 ✿ Peter DeWyckhurst (1180-1203) [female]
 ✿ Peter DeWyckhurst (1195-1220)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Lady Alice DeWyckhurst (1199-1220)
 ✿ Lady DeWyckhurst (1184- )
 ✿ Peter DeWyckhurst (1184-1203) [female]
 ✿ Peter DeWyckhurst (1195-1220)
 ✿ William Atte Wode (1220-1245)
 ✿ William Atwood (1224-1245)
 ✿ William Atte Wode (1224-1278)
 ✿ Peter Atte Wode (1245-1313)

The only "sources" are 16 other trees, no records. No surprise there. This person has accepted all the data from the other trees without question. The profile above is one of two trees used for the profile below. The other "source" tree only has Peter, his wife, his father, and one son, William Atte Wode.

 Peter DeWyckhurst
 Birth 1198 in Coulsdon, Surrey, England
 Death 1220 in Surrey, England

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Lady Alice DeWyckhurst (1199-1220)
 Married 1219 in Coulsdon, Surrey, England
 ✿ Lady (1184- )
 ✿ Peter DeWyckhurst (1195-1220)
 ✿ William Atte Wode (1220-1245)

Again, no actual records. If you think making "corrections" while copying other trees makes your tree better than theirs stop kidding yourself. Unless you have documentation to back up those corrections you are a clickophile too.


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Yowza!

Rule #5: You do not get to choose your ancestors.
Genealogy is not a buffet. You cannot pick and choose which of your 4th great-grandfather's wives is in your direct line because one is more interesting or easier to research.

Rule #6: Your female ancestor did not give birth when she was 74 years old.
Men can become fathers at any point during their adult lives. The same cannot be said for women. There are a few rare cases of women getting pregnant naturally over the age of 50. There's a list here. A source for one of the births on that list is an Ancestry Member Tree so I wouldn't consider it reliable. It is Wikipedia after all. If you can document a post-50 birth in your tree, without question, then you should go buy a lottery ticket.

You'll notice that this profile breaks Rule #1 and Rule #2 too. It's just all kinds of wrong. Sigh. See what other errors you can find.

 Uploaded numerous times to this tree.
Attached to Lewis O Garner 2nd and Lewis Oliver Garner 3rd.
 Title: tree-direct ancestor

 Lewis O Garner 2nd
 Birth 1793 in Howard Mill Area, Moore, North Carolina, United States
 Death 1879 in Ryans Glade, Garrett, Maryland, United States

 SPOUSE & CHILD
 Elizabeth Rickmeyer (1762-1860)
 ✿ Lewis Oliver Garner 3rd, b. 1840

Uploaded numerous times to this tree.

 Attached to Mary Elizabeth Yow.

 Title: Female Direct Ancestor

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Mary Elizabeth Yow (1799-1860)
 ✿ William Garner, b. 1791
 ✿ John Garner, b. 1794
 ✿ Phoebe Garner, b. 1798
 ✿ Hulda Garner, b. 1800
 ✿ Lewis Garner, b. 1802
 ✿ Malinda Garner, b. 1803
 ✿ Frances GARNER, b. 1820
 ✿ John H Garner, b. 1821
 ✿ Sallie Sarah Garner, b. 1823
 ✿ William Garner, b. 1826
 ✿ Elizabeth Garner, b. 1828
 ✿ Frances Frannie Garner, b. 1830
 ✿ Lydia Garner, b. 1832
 ✿ Margaret Garner, b. 1833
 ✿ William Garner, b. 1837
 ✿ John Garner, b. 1839
 ✿ Mary A Garner, b. 1858
 ✿ Richard McCorey Yow, b. 1870
 ✿ Florence J Yow, b. 1876

 SPOUSE & CHILD
 Elizabeth Yow (1799-1860)
 ✿ Sallie Sarah Garner, b. 1823

 SPOUSE
 Rebecca Spinks Yow (1835-1911)

 ONE of the RECORDS ATTACHED
 ✿ 1790 United States Federal Census
    Lewis Garner

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The Rules

Rule #2: Children cannot be born years after their parents have died.
There is no genetic trait that will allow for an exception. Your 5th great-grandfather wasn't born after his parents died and his children were not born after he died.
This is a rule that will have exceptions in modern times but when it comes to your ancestors...

William Moore
Birth 1767
Death 1781

PARENTS
John Moore (1675-1753)
Tabitha Pace (1714-1753)

SPOUSE & CHILDREN
Ann Nancy Lanier (1749-1833)
 Edward Moore (1769- )
 William Moore II (1775-1829)
 Aaron Moore (1781-1857)
 Moses Moore (1785- )
 Thomas Moore (1805- )

...families like this one never existed.


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Bottomless Pit

Thanks to Claire for the link to this profile! I wanted to thank her right at the top because you may never get to the bottom of this post. Seriously. I think this tree owner has added every event from their entire tree to this one profile.
Some of the more amusing notes are on events that have no date. If you want to skip to those you may want to start at the end of the post and scroll up.
If you see events not in chronological order they are not typos on my part. I think Ancestry's computer just threw up its metaphorical hands in despair. With almost 2000 marriage events who can blame it?
These are the records/sources attached to the profile:

1870 U.S. Federal Census
James Sanford, born abt 1836 in Michigan; living in Lansing, Mower, Minnesota
Civil War Service Records
James Sanford, 11th Wisconsin Infantry, Company B
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index
William Anderson, arrived in Maryland in 1659
U.S. Civil War Soldiers
James Sanford, 11th Wisconsin Infantry, Company B
U.S. Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files
James M. Sanford, 11th Wisconsin Infantry, Company B; widow Annie C. Sanford
U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles
James M. Sanford, enlistment date 12 Sep 1861, 11th Wisconsin Infantry, Company B
Ancestry Family Trees
Profiles included in this "source" are for Luna Elizabeth Sanford, Benjamin Albee, Luanna Rutledge, Charles Thurston Capwell, Henry Talladay, Charles Byron Andrews, John Milroy, James Austin Criswell, James Burns, Betty Ann POTTS, and George David Shannon

The entire profile is after the jump.

Dead End Street

WARNING! 

This post will involve a lot of scrolling. 

If you have carpal tunnel issues proceed at your own risk.

Post is continued after the jump. 

You can't say I didn't warn you.

Bang Your Head

Back to the trees today :-)

 Jane Bangar
 Birth 1712 in Virginia, United States
 Death 25 Jun 1762 in Weston

 PARENTS
 John Bangar (1690-1725)
 Mary (1700-1724)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Benjamin Garner (1663-1713) married 1683, Weston, Wyoming, United States
 ✿ [female] Garner (1664-1724)
 ✿ William Garner (1680-1749)
 ✿ Charles Garner (1684- )
 ✿ Joseph Garner (1684-1776)
 ✿ William Garner (1686-1771)
 ✿ Thomas Garner (1687-1726)
 ✿ John Garner (1688- )
 ✿ Mary Garner (1689- )
 ✿ Jane Joyce Garner (1690-1781)
 ✿ Susanna Garner (1690- )
 ✿ Jeremiah Garner (1694- )
 ✿ Charles Garner (1733-1797)
 ✿ William Garner (1735- )
 ✿ John Garner (1739-1813)
 ✿ Mary Garner (1741- )
 ✿ Susannah Garner (1743-1841)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 John Garner (1708-1762) married 1730 in Stafford, Stafford, Virginia, United States
 ✿ [female] Garner (1664-1724)
 ✿ William Garner (1680-1749)
 ✿ Charles Garner (1684- )
 ✿ William Garner (1686-1771)
 ✿ Thomas Garner (1687- )
 ✿ John Garner (1688- )
 ✿ Mary Garner (1689- )
 ✿ Susanna Garner (1690- )
 ✿ Joseph Garner (1692- )
 ✿ Jeremiah Garner (1694- )
 ✿ Charles Garner (1733-1797)
 ✿ William Garner (1735-1771)
 ✿ John Garner (1739-1813)
 ✿ Mary Garner (1741- )
 ✿ Susannah Garner (1743-1841)
 ✿ Lewis Garner (1750-1815)
 ✿ Bradley Garner (1754-1838)
 ✿ Mary Garner (1756-1849)

 SPOUSE
 Thomas Reno (1703-1777) married 1762 in Prince William, Virginia, United States

 RECORDS ATTACHED
 ✿ Family Data Collection - Individual Records
    Name: John Garner
    Spouse: Jane Joyce
    Parents: John Garner, Susanna Keene
    Birth Place: of, Northumberland, VA
    Birth Date: 20 Jun 1663
    Marriage Place: Weston
    Marriage Date: 1679
    Death Place: Weston
    Death Date: 25 Mar 1713
    Events attached to: Birth, Marriage to John Garner, Marriage to Thomas Reno, Death
 ✿ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    Name: John Garner
    Gender: Male
    Birth Place: VA
    Birth Year: 1663
    Spouse Name: Jane Joyce
    Marriage Year: 1678
    Events attached to: Birth, Marriage to John Garner, Marriage to Thomas Reno
 ✿ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    Name: John Garner
    Gender: Male
    Birth Place: VA
    Birth Year: 1660
    Spouse Name: Jane Joyce
    Marriage Year: 1678
    Events attached to: Marriage to Benjamin Garner
 ✿ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    Name: John Garner
    Gender: Male
    Birth Place: EN
    Birth Year: 1633
    Spouse Name: Susanna Keene
    Marriage Year: 1659
    Events attached to: Marriage to Benjamin Garner
 ✿ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    Name: John Garner
    Gender: Male
    Birth Place: VA
    Birth Year: 1633
    Spouse Name: Susannah Keene
    Spouse Birth Year: 1634
    Marriage Year: 1660

    Marriage State: VA 

    Events attached to: Marriage to Benjamin Garner

There's a span of almost 40 years with no births but plenty of children were born before and after that dry spell. About half of the children were born before their maternal grandparents. Every "record" attached to the profile is for John Garner, and it's not even the John Garner Jane was supposedly married to. There's a marriage event in Wyoming a couple of centuries before it became a state. The tree owner couldn't find the name of one female child, or her spouse, but figuring out the death date was no problem. And of course it's always amusing to have a woman giving birth to children that have two fathers and showing that one of those fathers sired children after his death.
Did I miss anything?


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Moore or Less

 William Moore
 Birth: 1775 in England
 Death: 1781 in Franklin County, North Carolina, USA

 PARENTS
 John Moore (1686 in Colony of Virginia - 1753 in Colony of Virginia)
 Tabitha Pace (1714 in Colony of North Carolina - 1753)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Ann Nancy Lanier (1749-1833) married in 1768 and 1780
 ✿ John Moore, b. in South Carolina, USA
 ✿ Moses Moore, b. in South Carolina, USA
 ✿ Thomas Moore, b. in South Carolina, USA
 ✿ Edward Moore, b. 1769, b. in Colony of South Carolina
 ✿ William Moore II, b. 1775, b. in Colony of North Carolina
 ✿ Aaron Moore, b. 1781 in England

 ONLY RECORD ATTACHED
 U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
 William Moore, born abt 1763, arrival year: 1765

Let me get this straight. William was born to parents who, if they had lived, would have been 89 and 61 years old. He married a woman, twice, who was 26 years his senior. One of the marriages occurred before he was born, the other when he was five. That makes sense since he also fathered a child before his own birth. Of course that was his second birth since he immigrated 2 years after his first birth.
Like most examples on this blog I could have my pick of profiles from this tree. Son Aaron has a child born in 1782 and wife Ann is a bigamist with two children sired by another man in 1775. She married him in 1781, a year after her second marriage to William.
How does this ridiculousness escape the notice of the tree owner?

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No Leeway

Sometimes I'll be just about done typing in details and click over to a parent's or spouse's profile only to realize that it is the one I should be writing about. Today was one of those days. I deleted the profile of a man whose wife had 43 children, at least 3 of them born after she died, and decided to type up his mother's profile instead. How long will it take you to figure out why?

 Elizabeth Lundy
 B: 1710 in Isle Of Wight, Virginia
 M: 1732 to Peter Lee in Brunswick, Virginia, United States
 M: 1732 to Peter Lee in , Brunswick, Virginia, USA
 D: 1782 in Brunswick, Virginia

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Peter Lee (1731-1738)
 ✿ William Lee b. 1727
 ✿ Peter Lee b. 1730
 ✿ Sampson Lee b. 1745
 ✿ David Lee b. 1746
 ✿ Noah Lee b. 1755
 ✿ Westbrook Lee b. 1759
 ✿ Batt Lee
 ✿ Burchet Lee
 ✿ Caro Lee
 ✿ Dau Lee
 ✿ Elizabeth Lee
 ✿ Geaine Lee
 ✿ Lundeay Lee
 ✿ Mary Lee
 ✿ Penelope Penny Lee
 ✿ Rebecca Lee

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Peter Lee (1718-1738)
 ✿ William Lee b. 1727
 ✿ Peter Lee b. 1730
 ✿ Batt Lee b. 1737
 ✿ Sampson Lee b. 1745
 ✿ David Lee b. 1746
 ✿ Noah Lee b. 1755
 ✿ Noah Lee b. 1755
 ✿ Westbrook Lee b. 1759
 ✿ Betsey Lee
 ✿ Burchet Lee
 ✿ Caro Lee
 ✿ Caro Lee
 ✿ Dau Lee
 ✿ Elizabeth Lee
 ✿ Geaine Lee
 ✿ Jane Lee
 ✿ Lunday Lee
 ✿ Lundeay Lee
 ✿ Mary Lee
 ✿ Mary Lee
 ✿ Penelope Penny Lee
 ✿ Rebecca Lee

A man who died at the age of 7 did not father one child, much less 16. And a man who died at the age of 20 did not father 22 children. Maybe after medical advances in late 20th century but certainly not in the 18th.


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I'm Older Than My Grandpa

There are variations of this profile on numerous trees. Some even appear, in the search results, to have records attached but I couldn't find any that had more than other trees.

 Sarah Jane Blansingame
 Birth 1695
 Death 1737

 PARENTS
 Larkin Venable (1771-1835)
 Molly Ann Roundtree (1771-1856)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Francis Bearden (1690-1759)
 ✿ Thomas b. 1717
 ✿ William b. 1717
 ✿ Humphrey b. 1722
 ✿ Benjamin b. 1736
 ✿ Edmund b. 1737
 ✿ Ambrose b. 1739
 ✿ John b. 1744

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Zombie Pioneer

Here is the profile I promised in Friday's post.

 Suletia Letitia Larison Cox
 Birth: 1822 in Missouri City, Fort Bend, Texas, United States
 Death: 30 Jun 1856 in Bonham, Fannin, Texas, USA

 FATHER
 George Larrison (1700 Kansas - 1800 Kansas)
 HUSBAND
 William Henry Cox Jr (1816 - 1891)

 Some of the records attached
 ✿ Irish Immigrants: New York Port Arrival Records, 1846-1851
    Letty Cox, age 23, arrival date 9 Oct 1848, native country Ireland
 ✿ Missouri Marriage Records, 1805-2002
    Suletia Larison and William Cox, Jackson County, 2 Dec 1836
 ✿ Texas, Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2011
    William Cox and Sarah Jane Yates, Fannin County, 20 Feb 1858
 ✿ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    William Cox (b. 1814) and Margaret Ann Whitaker, 1869
 ✿ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    William Cox (b. 1816) and Margaret Ann Whitaker (b. 1874), 1869

The United States acquired Kansas in 1803 as part of the Louisiana Purchase. That would make George Larrison quite the pioneer. And since his daughter wasn't born until 1822 it also makes him a zombie. Being sired by a zombie must give her powers to defy the space-time continuum. She can be born in both Texas and Ireland and continue to live on past her death as her husband. Luckily it was only his marriage records that were added to her profile and not his wives.
The last record above has an alternate name submitted and a comment. They are so very helpful.

Alternate name suggestion:
"Margaret Whitaker rather than William Cox
Her date of birth is wrong. It showes [sic] she got married before she was born. Showes [sic] she got married in 1869 and she was born 1874. That just can not be right, please check this out. Thank You, [name]"
Comment:
"I believe the spouse year is wrong! She was married before she was born."

Of course it couldn't possibly be a typo and they couldn't be bothered check the reliability of the source.


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Civil War Zombie Corps 5

 Robert Christopher Freeman
 B: 27 Jun 1748 in Tarrant Crawford, Dorset, England
 D: 27 Oct 1803 in York, York, South Carolina, United States

 FATHER
 Ralph Freeman, b. 1549 in High Ferrers, Derbyshire, , England
 MOTHER
 Unknown

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN*                  *all born in South Carolina with the Freeman surname
 Margaret McKnight
 B: Jul 1757 in Ulster, Antrim, Ireland
 D: 22 Jul 1813 in York, York, South Carolina, United States
 ✿ Allen, b. 1771
 ✿ Margaret, b. 1782
 ✿ Sarah, b. 1783
 ✿ Eleanor, b. 1794
 ✿ William, b. 1796
 ✿ Robert C, b. 1798
 ✿ Sarah, b. 1820

 SOME RECORDS ATTACHED
 ✿ England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
    Robert Christopher Freeman, 8 Oct 1749 in Tarrant Crawford, Dorset, England; Father - Robert Freeman, Mother - Catherine
 ✿ Family Data Collection - Individual Records
    Sarah Freeman, b. 1783 in York County, South Carolina to Christopher Freeman and Margaret Mcknight; married Silas C Stallings in 1800; d. 1856 in Blount County, Alabama;

 ✿ U.S., Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles, 1861-1865
    C Freeman; Rank - Private; State - Tennessee

ⓑⓐⓡⓚⓘⓝⓖ  ⓤⓟ  ⓣⓗⓔ  ⓦⓡⓞⓝⓖ  ⓣⓡⓔⓔ

I just love it when people attach records without actually looking at them. The profile shows Robert's father's name as Ralph. No, please don't bother to look at the record. It couldn't possibly be correct or include additional information (i.e. his mother's name). It could also lead you to a father who wasn't 199 years old when Robert was born. We can't have that.
And a record for Robert's child? Sure add that. Makes perfect sense to add that to his profile and not, by the way, to her profile. Neither Sarah has records attached. Maybe if they did someone would have noticed that the second Sarah was born after both parents were dead.
Then there's the Civil War record. Always a logical choice for someone who died in the early 19th century. The surnames are the same so it has to be the same person, right?
Sigh.

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Nearly, but NO!

A couple of notes before the post. First, if you've emailed since New Year's Day I'm sorry I haven't responded! I've gotten behind on answering emails to my blog address. I'm planning on going through those this week. Second, the title of this post is a line from Phantom of the Opera. Hearing the show 8 times a week I can probably recite the entire book. Unfortunately I have no idea what's happening because we can't see anything from the pit. So the title is just to amuse myself ;-)
Okay, on to the post...

 Timeline and Records for Minnie Gertrude Donaldson

 1870 Birth in Illinois
 1880 Residence in Fillmore, Montgomery, Illinois
         U.S. Federal Census: Minnie Donaldson, born abt 1871 in Illinois

 1892 Marriage to Elijah Harvey Randles
 1900 Residence in Fillmore, Montgomery, Illinois
         U.S. Federal Census: Minnie G Randle, born Nov 1870 in Illinois
 1910 Residence in Ricks, Christian, Illinois
         U.S. Federal Census: Minnie Randle, born abt 1871 in Illinois
 1920 Residence in Spring Valley, Shannon, Missouri
         U.S. Federal Census: Minnie Randle, born abt 1871 in Illinois
 1923 Death
         Find A Grave Index, Missouri
         Minnie G Randle, 1872-1923 [memorial includes a photo of the stone]
 1925 Residence in Brooklyn, Kings, New York
         N.Y. State Census: Minnie G Donaldson, born abt 1870 in United States
 1935 Residence in Lincoln, Lancaster, Nebraska
 1940 Residence in Lincoln, Lancaster, Nebraska
         U.S. Federal Census:  Minnie Donaldson, born abt 1870 in Illinois
 [no date] Burial in Summersville, Texas County, Missouri
         Find A Grave Index, Missouri         Minnie G Randle, 1872-1923 [memorial includes a photo of the stone]

Some info not included above, mostly because I couldn't figure out how to show it without it looking like the jumbled mess that it is. From census info Minnie and Elijah have at least 4 children. The profile on this tree shows one. After Minnie rises from the dead and moves to New York she is living with her 6 children who all have the Donaldson surname. When she moves to Nebraska she's living with her brother, Alex Lendberg. Makes perfect sense.
In the last couple of days the tree owner has deleted the events after death so maybe there's hope. The records are still attached which means everyone else who has Minnie Gertrude Donaldson in their tree will be getting those records as hints. How many of them will attach the records without a thought?


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Where to start?

 Thomas Jr. Davenport
 B: 1721 in King William, King William, Virginia, United States
 D: 1780 in Cumberland, Cumberland, Virginia, United States

 SPOUSE & CHILD
 Mary Noel (1743-1802)
 ❇ Osborne Davenport (1763-1830)

 SPOUSE & CHILD
 Lucy Ransom (1730-1750)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1754-1808)

 SPOUSE & CHILD
 Lucy Ransom (1730-1750)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1754-1808)

 SPOUSE & CHILD
 Lucy Ransom (1754-1750)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1754-1808)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Lucy Ransome (1725-1781)
 ❇ Anne Davenport (1752-1793)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1761-1848)
 ❇ John Jonathon Davenport (1765- )
 ❇ Mildred Millie Davenport (1766-1821)
 ❇ Nancy Davenport (1770- )
 ❇ Priscilla DAVENPORT (1772- )
 ❇ Ann Davenport (1822- )

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Lucy Ransome (1725-1781)
 ❇ Anne Davenport (1752-1793)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1761-1848)
 ❇ John Jonathon Davenport (1765- )
 ❇ Mildred Millie Davenport (1766-1821)
 ❇ Nancy Davenport (1770- )
 ❇ Priscilla DAVENPORT (1772- )
 ❇ Ann Davenport (1822- )

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Mary Noel (1743-1780)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1276-1320)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1451-1517)
 ❇ Philemon Davenport (1740- )
 ❇ James Davenport Jr (1742-1823)
 ❇ Joe Davenport (1744-1849)
 ❇ Claiborne Davenport (1754- )
 ❇ Julius Terry Davenport (1758-1843)
 ❇ Osborne Davenport (1763-1830)
 ❇ Nancy Davenport (1762- )
 ❇ Priscilla Davenport (1766- )
 ❇ Ann Davenport (1822- )
 ❇ Ann Davenport (1822- )
 ❇ Ann Davenport (1822- )
 ❇ James Davenport (1847-1902)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Mary Noel (1743-1780)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1276-1320)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1451-1517)
 ❇ Philemon Davenport (1740- )
 ❇ James Davenport Jr (1742-1823)
 ❇ Joe Davenport (1744-1849)
 ❇ Claiborne Davenport (1754- )
 ❇ Julius Terry Davenport (1758-1843)
 ❇ Osborne Davenport (1763-1830)
 ❇ Nancy Davenport (1762- )
 ❇ Priscilla Davenport (1766- )
 ❇ James Davenport (1847-1902)

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Mary Noel (1743-1780)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1276-1320)
 ❇ Thomas Davenport (1451-1517)
 ❇ Philemon Davenport (1740- )
 ❇ James Davenport Jr (1742-1823)
 ❇ Joe Davenport (1744-1849)
 ❇ Claiborne Davenport (1754- )
 ❇ Julius Terry Davenport (1758-1843)
 ❇ Osborne Davenport (1763-1830)
 ❇ Nancy Davenport (1762- )
 ❇ Priscilla Davenport (1766- )
 ❇ James Davenport (1847-1902)

Do I start with the son born in the 13th century? Or maybe the one born in the 15th century? Or the daughter born in the 19th century? Or one of the dozens of other egregious errors?
UGH!!!

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Cry Craven

cry craven - [idiom] to yield; capitulate; give up
dictionary.com

Emphasis on that last definition. Sigh.

 thomas craven
 B: abt 1850 in Manchester, Lancashire, England
 D: 1832 in Indiana, Pennsylvania

 thomas is the father of...

 william craven

 william is the father of...

 John S craven
 B: 1814 in Pennsylvania

 John is the father of...

 Tison B craven
 B: 1836

 Tison is the father of...

 william h craven
 B: abt 1814 in Kirk Smeton, Yorkshire, England

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African American, The Profile

Comments after the jump.

 African American
 B: 1664 in Abingdon Parish, Gloucester Co, VA
 D: 1737 in Virginia, United States

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 John Hall (1664-1737)
 ✿ George Hall
 ✿ Joseph Hall
 ✿ William Hall
 ✿ Mary Wilson (1680- )
 ✿ Mary Hall (1684- )
 ✿ Mary Hall (1684- )
 ✿ Thomas Hall (1685-1735)
 ✿ George Hall (1686-1763)
 ✿ John Hall (1687-1764)
 ✿ William Hall (1687- )
 ✿ Ann Hall (1688- )
 ✿ Deborah Hall (1690- )
 ✿ Joseph Hall (1691- )
 ✿ Sarah Hall (1692- )
 ✿ Thomas Hall (1697- )
 ✿ Ann Hall (1699- )
 ✿ Deborah Hall (1701- )
 ✿ Joseph Hall (1703- )
 ✿ Mary Hall (1703- )
 ✿ Margaret Hall (1704- )
 ✿ Sarah Hall (1706- )
 ✿ William Hall (1708-1764)
 ✿ Joseph Hall (1710-1760)
 ✿ Sarah Hall (1722-1790)
 ✿ Thomas Hall (1865- )

 RECORDS ATTACHED

 ✿ Family Data Collection Individual Records
    John Hall; spouse Hall Elizabeth; parents Clayton Thomas Margare; birth place Gloucester Co, Abingdon Parish, VA; birth date 1664; death date 20 Oct 1737
 ✿  U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
     Eliz Hall; arrival year 1680; arrival place Virginia
 ✿  U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
     Elizabeth Walker; spouse John Hall; children John Hall
 ✿ 12 Ancestry Member Trees
    11 trees with an Elizabeth married to a John Hall, 1 tree with "Unknown African American" married to a John Hall

Not Too Bright

 David B. Bright
 B: 1810 in South Carolina
 D: 1852 in Blount, Tennessee

 FATHER
 Wood Bright (1840-1902)
 MOTHER
 Margaret Jane Williams Bright (1845-1932)

 SPOUSE
 David Bright (1810-1852) m. 26 Jul 1837

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Jane Key (1815-1865) m. 26 Jul 1837
 ✿ William Wood Field Bright (1840-1902)
 ✿ Mary Bright (1844- )
 ✿ Esther Bright (1848- )
 ✿ Peter Bright (1848- )
 ✿ Hannah J. Bright (1851-1924)
 ✿ Mary Goodwin (1851- )

 CHILD with UNKNOWN SPOUSE m. 26 Jul 1837
 ✿ Sarah Carpenter Chance (1812-1894)

 RECORDS ATTACHED

 ✿ Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002
    David Bright & Jane Key, 26 Jul 1837
 ✿ 1850 US Federal Census
    David, Jennett, Wm, Mary, and Peter; all have the Bright surname
 ✿ 1880 US Federal Census
    William W. F. (age 39), Margarett J. (33), Martha J. (8), Susan E. (6), Hannah R. (4), and David B. (1); all have the Bright surname

The crazy seems to go on forever but this post won't. I'll try to boil it down to just a few sentences.
David is born 30 years before his father who is also his son. At the age of 2 he becomes a father and is born again in 1879. In a single day he marries himself and two women. Did I miss anything?

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Civil War Zombie Corps 4

No comments today, sorry. I'm on a gig right now that is keeping me really busy. If you see the show come down to the orchestra pit and say hi!
I'm sure you'll be able to pick out plenty of errors on your own ;-)

 Capt James Garner
 B: 1718 in Stafford, Stafford, Virginia, United States
 D: 1800 in Randolph, North Carolina, United States

 SPOUSE & CHILDREN
 Elizabeth Freeman (1721-1794)
 ✿ Bradley Garner (1741 - )
 ✿ Jepthia Garner (1743 - 1745)
 ✿ Peter GARNER (1743 - 1830)
 ✿ Henry G Garner (1745 - 1745)
 ✿ Elizabeth Garner (1747 - bet. 1767 & 1770)
 ✿ John Fouche Garner (25 Dec 1749 - 25 Nov 1839)
 ✿ Amos Garner (abt 1750 - )
 ✿ Lewis Garner (1750 - 1815)
 ✿ Mary Garner (1751 - )
 ✿ Mary Garner (1751 - 1749)
 ✿ Mary Polly Garner (abt 1751 - )
 ✿ Henry Garner (1753 - )
 ✿ Henry Garner (1753 - )
 ✿ Bradley Garner (1 Oct 1754 - 1838)
 ✿ Bradley Garner (1 Oct 1754 - Jun 1843)
 ✿ James Garner (1 Oct 1754 - Jun 1843)
 ✿ Barbara Andrews (Oct 1754 - ) Note: Male
 ✿ Barbara Andrews Garner (Oct 1754 - ) Note: Male
 ✿ Garner Garner (1756 - ) Note: Sex not indicated
 ✿ Joseph Garner (abt 1756 - )
 ✿ Raleigh Garner (abt 1756 - 1850)
 ✿ Rileigh Garner (1756 - 1745)
 ✿ William Garner (1756 - )
 ✿ William Garner (1756 - 1850)
 ✿ James Garner (1757 - )
 ✿ James Garner (1757 - )
 ✿ Peter Garner (1758 - )
 ✿ Joseph Garner (1759 - )
 ✿ Joseph Garner (1759 - )
 ✿ Joseph Garner (1759 - )
 ✿ Job Garner (1760 - 1800)
 ✿ Job GARNER (1760 - 1800)
 ✿ Henry Garner (1761 - FEB 1860)
 ✿ Henry Garner (1761 - 1745)
 ✿ Henry GARNER (1761 - )
 ✿ Jesse Garner (1762 - )
 ✿ Jesse Garner (1762 - )
 ✿ Jesse Garner (1762 - )
 ✿ Parish Garner (1763 - abt 1779)
 ✿ Jeptha Garner (1764 - )
 ✿ Jepthis Garner (1764 - )
 ✿ Elizabeth Garner (1765 - )
 ✿ Amos Garner (1766 - )
 ✿ Bradley Garner (1768 - 1848)

 A FEW OF THE RECORDS ATTACHED

 ✿ Family Data Collection - Births
    Vincent Garner born 1712
 ✿ Family Data Collection - Individual Records
    Capt James Garner born 1726, spouse Elizabeth Betty Freeman
 ✿ North Carolina, Marriage Collection, 1741-2004
    Dorothy Whittle, spouse John Garner, married in North Carolina
 ✿ U.S. Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934
    James Garner, widow applied for pension Aug 1890
 ✿ U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970
    James Garner born 1726
 ✿ Virginia, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1607-1890
    Vincent Garner, VA Early Census Index, 1770

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