Barking Up the Wrong Tree: The Time Travelers Part II

13 March 2012

The Time Travelers Part II

I've only included death dates when they are absolutely ridiculous.
Comments after the jump.

JOSE MIGUEL ALANIS

TIMELINE
1747 Birth in Mexico
1797 Death in Mexico
1897 Arrival
1910 Residence in Karnes, TX
1915 Arrival
1920 Residence in Cambria, PA
1930 Residence in Hidalgo, TX

CHILDREN
With Maria Antonia Vela (b. 1740)
Jose Daniel
Jose Maria
Jose Maria
Ramon
Tadeo
Joseph Miguel b. 1747
Esteban b. 1750
Jose Miguel b. 1750
Damian b. 1758
Jose Estan b. 1768
Jose Salvador b. 1770
Jose Vicente b. 1776
Jose Damian b. 1777
Vicenta b. 1779
Antonio Jesus b. 1784
Esteban b. 1790
Jose Maria b. 1792
Jose Maria b. 1792
Jose Maria b. 1873 d. 1850
Jose Joaquin b. 1905 d. 1812

With Maria Antonia Vela (b. 1763)
Tadeo
Jose Miguel b. 1750

With Andrea Alanis
Jose Joaquin b. 1905 d. 1812
Chisanta b. 1907
Amado b. 1909
With Juana Alanis (b. 1903)
3 Living children

ⓑⓐⓡⓚⓘⓝⓖ ⓤⓟ ⓣⓗⓔ ⓦⓡⓞⓝⓖ ⓣⓡⓔⓔ

This was taken from the same tree as The Time Travelers post about a month ago. The Ma Antonia Vela in that post is either his mother or one of the above wives. It's difficult to tell where the correct line is in this tree but I'll come back to that.
The only way this kind of mess can happen is by mindlessly copying trees. "Oh look, there's Jose Miguel Alanis and there's Jose Miguel Alanis and there's Miguel Alanis. Never mind that each of them is from a different CENTURY, they are all mine, mine, mine."
Genealogy is not an activity you can do without putting some thought into it. It takes deductive reasoning or at least some common sense.
When I've recovered from the head-meets-desk moments from this profile I'll find the correct direct line in this tree and compare it to this disastrous tree. Give me a month to recover from the bruises ;-)
In the meantime I'll be back on Friday with a research tip and next Tuesday with a different disaster. Thanks for reading!

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5 comments:

Tina TelescaSaturday, 07 April, 2012
I've found trees like this. I wondered if I should comment on them or not? What's frustrating is it has been copied and now is on multiple trees. If people would only look at it they would know it was not possible.
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LLG70Sunday, 08 April, 2012
Tina, It seems that many of the worst trees are from people who did the 2 week trial and then abandoned them. In this post I came up with another solution ;-) http://buwt.blogspot.com/2012/01/this-time-its-personal.html Unfortunately there will always be people who don't read. sigh.
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UnknownTuesday, 31 July, 2012
Here's one for you http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/5746532/person/-1322084851

I contacted the tree owner:

Subject: RE: Mother of Susannah Cooke, Wife of Mordecai Cooke

mamadi8897
Nov 1 12:33 AM GMT
The woman you have listed with the relationships listed above, Joan Constable, was born more than two centuries earlier than the Cookes. Records indicate that the mother and wife was Frances Ironmonger.

And got this reply:

cookiekolcz
Nov 1 1:39 AM GMT
I HAVE THE BOOK AND A COOKE

I gave up...
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BethWednesday, 18 September, 2013
Yeow!! A COOKIE????? How cryptic can a person be??!! That's almost scary!~ LOL :)
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